Dick Schwartz and Toni Herbine-Blank join Eli for a wide-ranging discussion about the future of Internal Family Systems therapy. From its origins in systemic family therapy to its rapid global growth, Dick and Toni explore how the model continues to evolve—shaping trauma treatment, couples work, and the broader psychotherapy landscape. They reflect on the expanding role of self-leadership, the integration of psychedelic assisted therapy, and the promise of IFS as a bridge between inner healing and relational transformation. This episode offers a rare look at where the model is headed next and why its message of compassion toward all parts continues to resonate with therapists and clients around the world.